If you have Rake, you get your Rake attacks (as a free action) as part of this action, whether or not your CMB succeeds.Ī creature with the Grab ability can a -20 on the CMB check to not gain the "Grappled Condition." If the creature goes this route, it is free to move normally, but must use it's standard action to maintain the grapple as above (still at -20 penalty) or it can take a Full Attack action with one of the attacks being to maintain the grapple and the others to foes either in or outside the grapple. If you have Constrict, you do your constrict damage on a successful CMB in addition to whatever other effect you perform. Swallow your enemy if you have the Swallow Whole ability (opponent takes bite damage this round, and swallowed damage in subsequent rounds). Pin your enemy, but you are also denied Dex to AC (even Rogues), In order to maintain a Grapple, you need to spend a standard action to make another CMB check (with a +5 on the check).
Needs to make a Concentration check (DC 10+CMB+Spell Level) to cast a spell, 2 to Attack/CMB (except into the grapple), The "Grappled Condition" (which applies to both grappler and grapplee) gives: With Pounce, a Lion would get 5 attacks (Bite, Claw Claw, Rake Rake).Īs part of the Bite a Lion gets a free CMB roll to start a grapple, due to the Bite ability it also gets +4 to grapple. And this is the understanding i came up with (i know some parts of the -20 bit are not 100% what's written in the book from the most literal translation, but i think it's what they were going for). So i spent most of yesterday reading and re-reading the books and checking other threads trying to figure out how all of these abilities stack. Is that the extent of the animal options for a lvl 8 Druid?You can turn into T-rex, or giganotosaurus, and you want anything else? What more do you NEED?Īctually the Druid can only transform into animals he's familiar with, so even the elephant is being slightly generous. Guamae wrote: All the Huge Animals we could find were either whales, elephants, or dinosaurs. Then again, the druid already can go for an Allosaurus I don't imagine a megabadger would really change the power scale. So given the premise that quite a few players feel the class is at least adequately powered without any modification, then there is a fear that adding new capabilities to the druid will just overpower the class.
I know it's arguable, because it's argued on these forums almost monthly. As written, the druid is arguably one of the most powerful classes in the Core book. It comes down to a flavour difference, and as they usually don't break games but do make it more interesting, I'm all for it!Īlthough, there is a bit of a mechanical consideration. I have no problem with a high-level druid turning into a megabadger of huge size - it's still the appropriate beast shape spell with the appropriate bonuses (same bonuses to ability scores and natural armour, same exclusive list to allowed bonuses, and while I'd increase the damage dice for its natural attacks, they're no different from what critters of that size can already get). After all, wildshape (and the spells it is based on) already limit your mechanical benefits.
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